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Havenhand


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Hi All

Steven Havenhand here.  How's it going then, any gossip?

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Hello Steven!

No gossip to report, but it's good to see you around here.

Hope all is well,
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Thanks very much indeed Mike, it's good to be around & all is well down here in Cornwall.

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Can I ask why you you left Pulp?

or is that a personal question?!



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Hi Mick

No it's not personal at all. I think the aim of forums like this is to share info about the band & I'm privvy to a lot of info which you might not know about. I left because Jarvis wanted Ant Genn on bass, Jarv asked me to step down over a coffee at the Student Union in Sheffield. He was really nice about,  he told me I was a good songwriter & that I should be doing my own stuff, he also had issues with me not giving the bass enough welly. Having said that, I got a phone call at work a couple of weeks later from Ant Genn asking me to come back as an extra guitarist. I turned the offer down because I didn't have the heart for it. I was about to lose my job at Sheffield University as a Lab Technician ,for erm....partying too much... & there was a lot I needed to get sorted out. I haven't done anything musical at all since then until this last month when I've started slapping songs on The Friday Night Band page at http://www.myspace.com/thefridaynightband . Have a listen, it's alright.

Over & out for now & luv from Steven.

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Hi Stephen. Great to see you round these parts.  Im sure Sturdy would have asked you some of these questions, had he tracked you down when writing his book, or maybe he did at his book launch, but anyroad

 

Whats your fondest memory of your time in Pulp?

 

Were Lay of The Land pissed off when you decided to up sticks?

 

What was the writing process like when you were in the group?
Where did rehearsals take place and how often? Not regularly Id imagine, considering the amount of gigs Pulp played in 87/88, and probably a lot less when Jarvis moved down to London.

 

Was it strange having to learn old songs that Pulp werent really interested in playing anymore (ie Freaks) but had to given that the album and its accompanying singles were only just being released; whilst at the same time having to take part in the very different sounding (Eastern European/Disco-influenced) new Pulp?

 

How much of Separations was written while you were in Pulp?
Are there any songs from your time in the band that were never released  which you find inexplicable? Im thinking in particular of Rattlesnake here and to a lesser extent Death Comes To Town. Personally I think the fact that Going Back To Find Her was never demoed let alone released, a real travesty.
By the way, I may be mis-remembering something here, but was it you who made the FON demos available for sale on ebay three or so years back? If so, this community is very grateful Rattlesnakes (which was posted on this boards mp3 account out of the blue about a year and a half ago) would have remained locked in the vaults otherwise.
Do you have any particular memories of the recording sessions?

 

Were you really seeing Russells sister at the same time?

 

What did you make of the er, highly original stage-decorations used by the band at concerts?

 

Did you get on with the then young and impressionable Mark Webber or did he just get on your nerves hanging round all the time?

 

Whats your favourite Pulp song (1) ever, and (2) written, played or recorded during your time in the group?

 

Did you ever think they would make it after you left and were you anyway jealous when they did? After all you were only two bass players away from being the one! Not bad for a band that changed their rhythm section more times than Sheffield United lose football matches

 

Lastly and most importantly of all; you were part of Pulp #4 so too, for a short period of time, was the enigmatic Captain Terry Sleep. What do you remember of the dozy sod and do you ever wonder what became of him?

 

Cheers for any replies, sorry for coming across as a little too curious, but its not often you get to ask a one time Pulponian a few questionsmight think of more when I have Truth & Beauty nearby but I suspect that lot will keep you busy!

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Whats your fondest memory of your time in Pulp?
Probably all of it really, y'know.Who doesn't want to play in their favourite band? I remember the first gig at The Limit as being a fun experience, Jarvis wore a 70's star jumper which caused a bit of a stir amongst the audience.  I admired him for that, it was about two sizes too small for him as well which was even funnier. Playing at the Adelphi in Hull was always good 'cause we had a strong following in that part of the world. I remember going to a club afterwards & most of the clubbers were people who'd attended the gig that night...lots of positive vibes & all that. I used to go to the pictures a lot with Jarvis as well, we saw Hellraiser together & we both felt ill afterwards.
Were Lay of The Land pissed off when you decided to up sticks? 
Nope, they threw me out of the band for being disruptive. I was involved in a relationship at the time where I was behaving very badly & the fall out from that permeated almost everything I did with LOTL. It was a shame really 'cause we were just about to sign to Native Records at the time & they backed out when I went. Steve Beckett (Warp) wanted to keep me in but the rest of them were against it. It hurt at the time but we made up in the end, bless 'em.
What was the writing process like when you were in the group?  
Jarvis was the catalyst. He'd get out his instrument......his portable casio keyboard, play some chords & we'd be away. Jarv was the boss at that time & he was the creative force behind all the songs Pulp wrote during that period. So in a nutshell, the chords & the basic structure of the song were supplied by Jarvis & then we'd each add our own instrumental parts to it i.e Russell's screechy violin parts, my plonky bass bits etc. In some songs Jarvis would take complete control & dictate what we played note for note and that was fine.....but then who'd argue with a genius?
Where did rehearsals take place and how often? Not regularly Id imagine, considering the amount of gigs Pulp played in 87/88, and probably a lot less when Jarvis moved down to London.
We rehearsed a lot when Pulp#4 came together initially , we had a full set to learn in about a month for a gig at the 100 Club in London. Jarvis wasn't keen on playing the older material 'cause the 'Freaks' album was done & it was time to move on. Standard practice afterwards would be to rehearse a couple of times a month & to cram in a couple more quickies before any gigs.
Was it strange having to learn old songs that Pulp werent really interested in playing anymore (ie Freaks) but had to given that the album and its accompanying singles were only just being released; whilst at the same time having to take part in the very different sounding (Eastern European/Disco-influenced) new Pulp?
We were only playing two of the older songs 'Masters of the Universe' & 'They Suffocate at Night' 'cause they were down to be released as singles.When we played the 100 Club the artwork for 'Suffocate' was just being sorted & Fire gave Jarv a copy of the sleeve at the gig. Personally, I was more keen on the newer songs & everyone was more enthusiastic about playing the new stuff.
How much of Separations was written while you were in Pulp?  
Love Is Blind, Don't You Want Me Anymore, Seperations, My Legendary Girlfriend, Down By The River. More than half the album.
Are there any songs from your time in the band that were never released  which you find inexplicable? 
Rattlesnake & Death Comes To Town should've come out. My First Wife was groovy.  
Im thinking in particular of Rattlesnake here and to a lesser extent Death Comes To Town. Personally I think the fact that Going Back To Find Her was never demoed let alone released, a real travesty.  
I wasn't that keen on Going Back To Find Her really... I think it was written fairly quickly & it never really took off for me. 
By the way, I may be mis-remembering something here, but was it you who made the FON demos available for sale on ebay three or so years back? 
Yes, I am a naughty boy, I still think they should be released properly.
If so, this community is very grateful Rattlesnakes (which was posted on this boards mp3 account out of the blue about a year and a half ago) would have remained locked in the vaults otherwise.  
I feel the love from all you guys out there....smile
Do you have any particular memories of the recording sessions?
Yes, I remember the strings sounding lovely on Dont You Want Me Anymore. I remember feeling knocked out by Rattlesnake cause it sounded big & cinematic with the strings. I also remember Russell not being able to play his guitar part on Death Comes to Town & Jarvis having to do it for him instead....Russell was tied up with his antiques at the time.
Were you really seeing Russells sister at the same time? 
Yes, I was with Rachel for five years & we had a daughter Emily, consequently I've spent a lot of time with Russell . I used to work in his antiques shop on Sharrowvale Rd, as well as go to antiques fairs & stuff with him....he's a character is Russell. 
What did you make of the er, highly original stage-decorations used by the band at concerts? 
Funny - I like that.
Did you get on with the then young and impressionable Mark Webber or did he just get on your nerves hanging round all the time? 
I though it was great that Mark & co were so keen on us. He never got on my nerves, I thought he was a sweetie. 
Whats your favourite Pulp song (1) ever, and (2) written, played or recorded during your time in the group? 
Fave Pulp song is Wickerman & my fave with the band is Dont You Want Me Anymore. 
Did you ever think they would make it after you left and were you anyway jealous when they did?  
I always thought Pulp was an excellent band -  before joining, whilst I was with them & what came afterwards. I wasn't jealous when they became huge, I was proud. The success of the band never bothered me, what did bother me was that I lost touch with them, most of which was my fault 'cause I left Sheffield & stopped going out. I'd be up for a Pulp#4 reunion anyday of the week.
After all you were only two bass players away from being the one! Not bad for a band that changed their rhythm section more times than Sheffield United lose football matches 
Ouch, I support Sheff Utd!! 
Lastly and most importantly of all; you were part of Pulp #4 so too, for a short period of time, was the enigmatic Captain Terry Sleep. What do you remember of the dozy sod and do you ever wonder what became of him? 
Terry was just a quiet guy that's all. Candida was always first choice for keyboard so when she came back, Terry went. 
Cheers for any replies, sorry for coming across as a little too curious, but its not often you get to ask a one time Pulponian a few questionsmight think of more when I have Truth & Beauty nearby but I suspect that lot will keep you busy! 
That's no problem, I'll answer whatever is thrown my may. 



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Are there any songs from your time in the band that were never released  which you find inexplicable? 
Rattlesnake & Death Comes To Town should've come out. My First Wife was groovy. 


Is Rattlesnake in the yahoo account?  Can't see under baritalia2005 or baitalia2006, and I forget the other one.


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Rattlesnake is in the bar italia 2005 account; it's just hard to find, as it's under the subject title 'Okeydoke', fifth mp3 from the bottom on the first page. Jayenkai posted it, bless 'em. You're in for a treat The...er Idiot. Can't believe you've not heard this song. Stands up as one of Pulp's best from any era.

Stephen, if you want to take a gander at an assortment of Pulp bits'n'bobs, mostly from live gigs (think there's a couple of things from your time in the band), go to yahoo mail, sign-in as baritalia2005 and the password is pulp2005.

Thanks for your quick and detailed response by the way - a real interesting read. What did you make of the recent Island reissues by the way?

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Go raibh maith agat.  Don't know it slipped by me in the account, especially as I remember hearing about an early unreleased Radiohead demo called Rattlesnakes, coincidentally enough.

On first listen, sounds great.  Production is particularly good for that era Pulp also.

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Thanks Eamonn, I'll have a listen to the stuff in there later.
I haven't heard the newly released stuff yet....but I'll get hold of them soon & give them an ear, I'm not very proactive when it comes to visiting the record shop.
If u have any further questions about anything then drop them on the board & I'll reply....and don't forget my choons at http://www.myspace.com/thefridaynightband, everyone is welcome to listen & feedback on MySpace, I can take suggestions or criticism, or if you live near me...new band members!!
Be well.
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Just thought I'd echo Eamonn's thanks to Steven for such an interesting set of answers, nice one. And also thanks Eamonn for actually bothering to ask such a good set of questions... don't suppose you fancy doing the second edition of Truth & Beauty?

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Thanks Mark......they were good questions to ask as well.

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Does Russell still have an antiques shop on Sharrowvale Rd? Where abouts? My boyfriend lived just off there for a few years (first on Ashford Rd then on Wayland Rd). Once saw Nick on SVR... but I've never seen Russell around there.

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Hi littlesaint

No it closed before Pulp went global. He used to sell a lot of art glass -  Venini being one maker, hence the band name, loads of Murano glass as well. He was on there for around two to three years whilst Pulp was dormant in the late 80's/early 90's. I forget the name of the road it was on the corner of but it was at the bottom of the hill on a corner just down the hill from a large car garage on Sharrowvale Road.

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I think it sounds like the shop that is now Ora - sells lots of Italian plastic and other expensive things.

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Ta for the info littlesaint, went for an italian meal on sharrowvale last time i was up in sheffield, loads of eating places on there now.

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Excellent questions Eamonn. That's all very interesting info. Steven smile.gif



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Happy to oblige.

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Hello Havenhand
All those songs in Your myspace are excellent. I like it very much. Thank You for that stuff. I will buy Your album definitely.



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Hello Pulpdraugs

Thanks very much for saying that, that's very kind & also very encouraging. I think most of the songs on the MySpace site will make up the first EP, we'll be smartening them up a bit though as they were recorded quickly on a four track.
Cheers Pulpdraugs & keep in touch.

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hey there Steven. Good to see you're still out there making music! I agree with pulpdraugs - just had a listen through on your myspace and your band's music is really enjoyable to listen to, especially the first couple of songs I like very much. Have sent a request to be added as a friend, haven't used myspace as much nowadays but will certainly be looking forward to hearing more :)

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Thanks very much indeed Matt. I've done the necessary on MySpace & you're on my friends list. I notice you studied at Warwick Uni, my wife was there for a while doing her BA.
All the best for now & keep in touch
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Ah cool, yep, it's a really nice uni there, miss my student days!
Anyhow cheers for adding me!
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