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Jock Mooney


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Brett's single "Love is Dead" is good, if not knock out brilliant.

There's a 5 track album promo doing the rounds - wonder why not the full album? hmmm....


well - listen to "Dust and Rain" on this site, and maybe you'll see why:

http://www.indiecredential.com/?p=180

Its like a parody of a Brett Anderson song, and the production is dull beyond belief!

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* Fuss Free rolls his eyes with a ''Surprise, surprise" expression.*

It's shaping up to be a 'A New Morning Part 2' by the sound of things. As if the first one wasn't enough.

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Its not even that good.

At least there were some good melodies on A New Morning, well, sort of....but these tracks are atrocious.

They sound like shit demos - especially "dust and rain", the worst thing Brett's EVER done.

I was hoping to enjoy both Brett's and Jarvis's albums, but both haven't delivered in my view.

Jarvis is at least lyrically interesting, but over time I've gone off the album, its a bit dull actually....but not as dull as Brett's!

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It's disappointing really, isn't it? He must be aware of how shallow his later material is, but doesn't seem bothered about trying to do anything original. He's a victim of his own stereotype. At least a few years ago he was off his tits all the time, but now that he's supposed to be drug-free he hasn't really regained any focus. Why doesn't his recent output embarrass him more? It's not even as if he's making so much money from it.

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OMG! I LUV IT!

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well they do say that for every person with good taste, there is someone with awful taste.

ARe you Brett's girlfriend? I feel sorry for her the most, she'll have heard this crap blasting throughout the house for months on end.



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That was sarcasm.

Longtime visitors to this board already know the depths of my hate for Brett Anderson. The man's been writing the same shitty song for the last 15 years. I can't figure out why he's always getting mentioned on Pulp messageboards. I wish we could just stop associating Pulp with Suede. They've nothing in common.

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I think Pulp and Suede have quite a lot in common (people).

They were both produced by Ed Buller, they aren't Blur or Oasis. They were somewhat overlooked, in comparison to Blur and Oasis.

Their biggest commercial successes, "A Different Class" and "Coming Up", both had difficult follow ups with mixed reviews (This is Harcore, Headmusic).

The last album by both bands went "back to nature" and featured more acoustic, almost pastoral arrangements (We love life, A New Morning) sales of both were very poor.

Sales of both group's "Greatest Hits" sold very poorly (Hits, Singles)

Both have worked with Nick Knight and Peter Saville.

Both front men have released (or are about to in Brett's case) solo albums which fail to reach the glories of the past.

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I'm convinced.

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Jock Mooney wrote:


 both had difficult follow ups with mixed reviews (This is Harcore, Headmusic).

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this is hardcore is gold...you can't compare it with that shit called headmusic



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I'm inclined to think Suede's career parallels more closely with that of The Human League:

Two early albums with a particular aesthetic released to critical acclaim...

Line-up changes and subsequent commercial success with third album...

Featuring arguably the signature song of each band (Trash/Don't You Want Me)...

Later attempts to repeat former glory with more often than not disappointing results.



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Jarvis cocker's god now

what's brett really?

plus Pulp albums were quality, wheareas Suede only had a couple of good singles.

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I'm inclined to think that Brett Anderson doesn't have an original bone in his frail body. That his success is built on the backs of more talented performers.

Suede belongs in the dustbin. They are to 1993 what The Killers were to 2004.

Jarvis is authentic and original. As Alex Kapranos said "There is no other Jarvis".



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andy wrote:
wheareas Suede only had a couple of good singles.

 I can't think of a Suede single where the b-side isn't better than the a-side (save for maybe "Stay Together").



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oooh friction,

Funny this, I'm getting stick over at the Brett Anderson forum (see www.brettanderson.co.uk) for slagging him off, whilst here I seem to be sticking up for him (well "him" being a 15 years minus his current age).

Ealy Suede were fucking great, in my view, and even "Headmusic" has some great tracks - like "Down" and "Asbestos", and "She's in Fashion" is a brilliant throw away single.

True, Brett has never had Jarvis's lyrical grasp, but that doesn't mean that there haven't been moments - for example, couldn't;

"Uncle teds in their legendary vests helping out around the disabled"

be a lyric that jarvis would be proud of?

Anderson has fallen short recently, well for the last decade or so, but Jarvis has not exactly been in his prime for a while either...

-- Edited by Jock Mooney at 01:01, 2007-02-16

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I find it sad that Brett Anderson inspired more discussion on this board than, say, Jarvis' battle with tinnitus or "The Boss".

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