Has a video emerged yet? It's quite a random choice to dust-off.
They could nearly do a set of the deep-cuts played live since last year, for all the grumbling we do about them sticking to similar sets. I think this is all the rarer-spotted songs they've performed in 2023/24 if we cap them at played 6 times or less according to SetlistFM:
1. Dishes (2) 2. Bad Cover Version (1) 3. Monday Morning (1) 4. Joyriders (3) 5. Hymn Of The North (3) 6. Background Noise (3) 7. Lipgloss (1) 8. OU (1) 9. After You (6) 10. Razzmatazz (4) 11. Bar Italia (1)
Total number of songs performed: 28
Total number of songs performed on the 2011-2012 reunion: 46!
I know it's a vain hope but, if we are now possibly nearing the end of Pulp as an ongoing concern, how amazing would it be if next year they cut loose from the established crowd-pleasing Different Class-heavy setlist and did some low-key gigs full of deep cuts and hardcore faves?
As technically and visually impressive these 2023/24 shows have been, I think I'm right in saying those of us who bother to post here - let alone know of its existence - don't really care about all the bells and whistles, video screens and fireworks... we just want Pulp, in a room together, just being glorious.
-- Edited by Pip on Thursday 8th of August 2024 09:29:39 PM
I fear that itd be a one-off and so intimate a venue that few of us would get to see it.
HOWEVER, if there was to be a final, final Pulp gig itd be cool if they mirrored the last final gig and have a wee festival at Magna again.
What other venues still exist of sufficient size that are directly & sentimentally linked to big moments in their history? I like the idea because after the goodbyes at Magna there was always the Romantic promise of a return, which as we know eventually came to pass; a FINAL goodbye at Magna would retain the memory of that promise, and would carry a certain charge of magic even though we would know the band were really through for good.
I know the break-up was difficult, but I get the sense the band faced the future with a certain optimism (relief too, alas). Not sure if they have negative memories of the night. It is history now though, and something they have presumably come to terms with if not embraced
They will definitely play Happy Endings wherever they stage it anyway, like they did then.
-- Edited by superchob on Friday 9th of August 2024 09:21:26 AM
Has a video emerged yet? It's quite a random choice to dust-off.
They could nearly do a set of the deep-cuts played live since last year, for all the grumbling we do about them sticking to similar sets. I think this is all the rarer-spotted songs they've performed in 2023/24 if we cap them at played 6 times or less according to SetlistFM:
1. Dishes (2) 2. Bad Cover Version (1) 3. Monday Morning (1) 4. Joyriders (3) 5. Hymn Of The North (3) 6. Background Noise (3) 7. Lipgloss (1) 8. OU (1) 9. After You (6) 10. Razzmatazz (4) 11. Bar Italia (1)
Total number of songs performed: 28
Total number of songs performed on the 2011-2012 reunion: 46!
You can change that to O.U. (2) now! It got played tonight. In fact my numbers are slightly different:
Razzmatazz - 11 Glory Days - 10 After You - 6 Joyriders - 5 Background Noise, Hymn of the North - 3 OU, Monday Morning, Dishes, Bad Cover Version - 2 Lipgloss, Bar Italia - 1
Some of these songs (Razz, Riders, Morning, Noise, After You) have also been listed as alternates before a couple of times.
The standard set seems to have two slots that change: a) something else upbeat gets swapped in for Mis-Shapes, or b) the encore changes.
What else could they possibly play? Mark, bless him, has teased Legendary Girlfriend and The Fear... Jarvis has mentioned others but as much as I'd love to see them do David's Last Summer, I just can't imagine it...
Potentially on the in-pile for America is some more of Hardcore I'd imagine - perhaps not Help the Aged (too morbid) or Seductive Barry (not without Steve) for instance, but perhaps A Little Soul, Party Hard, The Fear maybe, or at least Dishes coming back? Those strike me as a little more realistic.
Similarly I wouldn't really expect them to do Acrylic Afternoons - that uses a harpist - but Have You Seen Her Lately, which we know they've rehearsed, might be a better bet? And similarly maybe His 'n' Hers?
Birds in Your Garden might be another. And you never know, maybe something off of Separations...
There might be repeat airings for a couple of the tracks they've barely done, like Lipgloss or Monday Morning.
Realistically all Pulp fans would love to see Sheffield Sex City and Wickerman, but I think it might only really be viable at an indoors gig in the UK. And they've already done several of those... We live in hope, though, that there will be another Brixton-style gig...
(I mean at this point it feels rich to even ask - they've given us so much! What an incredible tour this has been... I don't think we'd even be talking about this had they not whipped out OU and caught us all by surprise!)
superchob wrote:
I fear that itd be a one-off and so intimate a venue that few of us would get to see it.
HOWEVER, if there was to be a final, final Pulp gig itd be cool if they mirrored the last final gig and have a wee festival at Magna again.
What other venues still exist of sufficient size that are directly & sentimentally linked to big moments in their history? I like the idea because after the goodbyes at Magna there was always the Romantic promise of a return, which as we know eventually came to pass; a FINAL goodbye at Magna would retain the memory of that promise, and would carry a certain charge of magic even though we would know the band were really through for good.
I know the break-up was difficult, but I get the sense the band faced the future with a certain optimism (relief too, alas). Not sure if they have negative memories of the night. It is history now though, and something they have presumably come to terms with if not embraced
They will definitely play Happy Endings wherever they stage it anyway, like they did then.
I would love them to bring out Happy Endings - but they didn't in 2012! It was Mis-Shapes they played last, on the Coachella cruise (and if we discount that, it was Jarvis singing White Christmas in 2012 after the band ended their set with Something Changed).
It would be a perfect ending, though. A Happy Ending...
-- Edited by lipglossed on Saturday 10th of August 2024 12:00:29 AM
Yeah, it's time. Can't be any harder to sing than Misshapes. Face it Jarvis, you are forever young.
More chance of a Back In LA reprise when they play the West Coast though, sadly.
Sam, I must have only been counting 2024 or 2023 stats (ie not cumulative) when looking at the number of times songs have been played, on the SetlistFM tour stats.
One disappointing thing is that Background Noise nor anything else new has featured this year. We know Jarvis likes to road-test material before recording it but as it looks like that has completely halted now, a one-off single/EP/album seems highly unlikely (i guess it always did but...).
-- Edited by Eamonn on Saturday 10th of August 2024 10:58:36 AM
Yeah, it's time. Can't be any harder to sing than Misshapes. Face it Jarvis, you are forever young.
More chance of a Back In LA reprise when they play the West Coast though, sadly.
Sam, I must have only been counting 2024 or 2023 stats (ie not cumulative) when looking at the number of times songs have been played, on the SetlistFM tour stats.
One disappointing thing is that Background Noise nor anything else new has featured this year. We know Jarvis likes to road-test material before recording it but as it looks like that has completely halted now, a one-off single/EP/album seems highly unlikely (i guess it always did but...).
-- Edited by Eamonn on Saturday 10th of August 2024 10:58:36 AM
Oh wow...just when I thought new songs were on the wane, they played "A Sunset" last night? That is a Cocker/Hawley co-write, isn't it? Played at one of the Save The Leadmill gigs. Getting their money out of Richard being there, also playing on CP and Sunrise.
Feck knows what it means for future recorded stuff...maybe nowt at all.
Edit: It was on the setlist as shown above but not played thanks to Alvvays hogging the stage. You'd be gutted to lose three songs...then again, the same fate conspired against me at my first Pulp gig when I was 17. I didn't know that at the time, I didn't know a thing at all.
From SetlistFM:
Show began five minutes late as the act on the opposite stage played for longer than they were supposed to do. Underwear, Misshapes and Glory Days/A Sunset were on the printed setlist but not performed due to time restraints.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Saturday 10th of August 2024 03:00:22 PM
Yeah, it's time. Can't be any harder to sing than Misshapes. Face it Jarvis, you are forever young.
More chance of a Back In LA reprise when they play the West Coast though, sadly.
whyyyyy LA. no no no no. wrong date
Just cos Jarvis is a scamp for playing songs with a loose link to the place they're playing. And when I shouted out for "Help The Aged" at Nick's book launch last year at Rough Trade when a question from the audience was raised about what other songs they had rehearsed, he said "Nah, sorry".
Things may have changed since of course.
-- Edited by Eamonn on Saturday 10th of August 2024 02:52:46 PM
We know Jarvis likes to road-test material before recording it but as it looks like that has completely halted now, a one-off single/EP/album seems highly unlikely (i guess it always did but...).
-- Edited by Eamonn on Saturday 10th of August 2024 10:58:36 AM
How come you think this? I'm still convinced they are working something up. Any insider intel?