Eurovision final ?!?

Im not even going!

Either that or he was swiftly embargoed.

I reckon he got over excited, and was silenced by the management.

His tweet kind of hints again at some big news.

I want to believe there is big, big news, I really do

Please be Eurovision as I'll be there tomorrow

Didn't Jarvis once say that he fancied writing Britain's entry for it?!

Without any shadow of a doubt, Nick has been silenced by someone or something. Ive been suspicious of things for sometime now regarding this reuniting of Pulp. Back in 2011, there was a big deal with festival announcements up and down and the globe. This time it appears that it seems primarily focus around the UK. There was announcements on a very regular basis - and considering that there was a band member who wouldnt travel by air (Russell). We also all knew that it was very much a "cash in" for the band, and we knew that there was a final gig announced for Sheffield Arena that was to be the final hurrah. This time round, they are still playing AFTER the two Sheffield Arena gigs - at Latitude.

Now...remember when I posted about the lack of activity after the gigs for 2023 were announced - sadly the passing of Steve Mackey turned out to be the reason for this. HOWEVER things still feel different. Nick has always been the "cheeky chap" kinda guy, and ive experienced this personally with him addressing post to me by calling me "Scott "The Nutter" Frazer....He is clearly excited about the tour as you would expect, especially with the tweets he has been posting for sometime - although the tweet about "Big Announcement Tomorrow" seemed very out of character in my opinion, and then to back track from his statement with the "14 days" photo along with the "Im sure there will be some other stuff soon....maybe....

I honestly do not know what is in the pipeline, but something clearly IS.

Further tour dates? - Well, I cant see how that would really be a "big announcement" considering there wasnt too big a deal about other tour dates being announced periodically upon the news of a reunion.

Glastonbury - Again, I dont see why it would be a big deal. The headline acts for the Pyramid stage has been announced ages ago, and Pulp are too big a name for other stages - Park stage was a surprise back in 2012, however that was expected to happen.

World Tour - The dates and locations that have already been released are all UK and Ireland. Festivals would surely be announced periodically throughout the year since the announcement of the reunion and this hasnt happened. So possibly a big European or World Tour COULD be possible.

Nicks Book - It could be possible the big announcement was to do with that?

Super Deluxe Reissues - other bands eg Supergrass, Suede etc have released reissues with countless alternate mixes, outtakes, demos etc - to be honest, Pulps reissues have all been pretty vague, however they were released quite some time ago - so this is a possibility.

OR.........

A NEW ALBUM - well, why not? Nick has had a new drum kit afterall....

I honestly think whatever it is, its HUGE and its gonna be bigger than we are all thinking.

US/Latam dates (maybe Japan/Oz/NZ too) would be my guess.

In terms of new stuff, the best I can imagine is a one-off single for RSD in June or during the summer when they're playing and even at that I think it would be a remix/re-record of old material not released before in the same vein as After You.
New remixes of Live On/Cuckoo on a 7/12 inch would be amazing.

Jarvis was writing and playing with Jarv Is...up to last summer and into autumn he was still busy promoting his book. Since the reunion announcement Steve was not involved and ill so I'd be very surprised if they came up with new material without him, out of respect as much as all the other reasons they haven't bothered since 2002!

I haven't been following the updates. Has Russell or any other members from the 80s given hint to participating in this tour?

I am thinking this tour might be a life-time retrospective tour, especially with Steve's passage and Jarv's nostalgic ruminations in his book and speaking tour.

Also would make sense why they've opted for small-ish UK venues instead of an international tour of bigger venues and festivals. Nobody needs to get on a plane.

Simply Fuss Free wrote:

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I haven't been following the updates. Has Russell or any other members from the 80s given hint to participating in this tour?

I am thinking this tour might be a life-time retrospective tour, especially with Steve's passage and Jarv's nostalgic ruminations in his book and speaking tour.

Also would make sense why they've opted for small-ish UK venues instead of an international tour of bigger venues and festivals. Nobody needs to get on a plane.

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 I'd imagine there's a bit of material they didn't get to revisit last time that they might want to this time. Steve's passing will have provoked them to reflect and look back - so many memories. They might want to play some of his old favourites, or some songs that they particularly enjoyed recording together.

Having Russell be with them last time was obviously brilliant, but one consequence was that half the shows drew heavily from H&H/DC at the expense of TIH and WLL. Even after he left, they couldn't rehearse an infinite amount of songs, so those later albums still didn't get a huge amount of rotation. Without Steve's bass expertise, and his knowledge of the arrangements and what to ad-lib, they might not rehearse so many songs; but if Russell isn't joining, then they have a freer hand to select their songs to rehearse. (Which, of course, they've already done.) Likely fewer songs, but perhaps a more balanced selection from past eras. They played a lot of Different Class last time round - even Pencil Skirt and Monday Morning got constant airings. Jarvis might not fancy that, this time.

It'd be nice to see Russell join them at Sheffield, even though he almost certainly won't (for one thing, he hates the arena). A nice surprise.

-- Edited by lipglossed on Sunday 14th of May 2023 09:24:54 PM

Good shout. Think he still runs a studio in London with Martin Slattery.

Sturdy wrote:

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I would heavily bet against Russell joining them this time.

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 Yeah, most likely.

If that's meant to be a tease that Pulp will be playing the Glade area at Glastonbury, looking at the line-up for those stages they're a very odd fit.

Sturdy wrote:

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If that's meant to be a tease that Pulp will be playing the Glade area at Glastonbury, looking at the line-up for those stages they're a very odd fit.

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 You are talking about the band that headlined the Homelands festival and smashed it. 

This is a bit disappointing so far right ? They promised big stuff and nothing is coming bar the tour. Maybe the passing of Steve changed the plan. That would be understandable.

But there is so much to do, so many bands are releasing stuff and Pulp is sitting on golden material from the 90s, go figure !

Oooh... fascinating. So he's said there is big news coming soon.

So the options are:
New single
An album
World tour
A famous festival - I shan't name it at fear of being deemed an obsessive on this here forum of obsessives...
Leadmill warmup gig (only one possible date avail and it would proceed 'Abba night' so unlikely)
New band member
Other.

My money is on world tour.

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Was about to begrudgingly agree with you Andy but then I read Nick's latest tweet (Sun May 21st) !!

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ahah, right on time i was 

 

Could it be that the big announcement he teased few days ago was delayed because of Blur ? 

 

Well i hope for some kind of material to be honest. My wish is the release of a box set with rarities and the WLL demos. A new album is unlikely and only one new song wouldn't feel that big to be honest. 

 

Obviously a bigger tour is coming, would it be that Big of a news ? No. I mean... BOX SET IT HAS TO BE 

though following-up Hits with a compilation called Misses would be hilarious, full of songs that would never chart but that are the most fabulous, Pulpy tracks out there, like Acrylic Afternoons, I Spy, Wicker Man, etc

But not Sex City. Thats OURS

-- Edited by superchob on Monday 22nd of May 2023 09:06:02 AM

I'd call it deadwood ... In-fitting with the band name 

superchob wrote:

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though following-up Hits with a compilation called Misses would be hilarious, full of songs that would never chart but that are the most fabulous, Pulpy tracks out there, like Acrylic Afternoons, I Spy, Wicker Man, etc

But not Sex City. Thats OURS

-- Edited by superchob on Monday 22nd of May 2023 09:06:02 AM

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 Actually a convo I had with Giles Acrylic! Here are the songs I'd go for:

O.U. (Gone, Gone)
Acrylic Afternoons
She's A Lady
Pink Glove
Live On
Mis-Shapes
I Spy
F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E.
Bar Italia
Dishes
The Professional
Seductive Barry
Glory Days
Like a Friend
Wickerman
After You

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Enough lists (!), I wonder when this news is going to be announced - before they kick things off on Friday?

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Shit, sorry! Getting carried away here...

Is support confirmed for the Bridlington gig? The announcement could be a surprise support act, or one for their actual shows... it could be something they drop before the gig on Friday. 

Also, the day after Bridlington could be a good day if they want to drop an announcement, they'd already be trending/people excited from the day before.

Here's hoping for a new release...there's got to be something left kicking around in the archives. Did they record anything fresh in 2012? Was it just After You they re-recorded? Pulp often like to go back and revisit old stuff... hence the fact they're playing Bridlington and Finsbury...

Re 2012, they did bugger-all press and never said much about After You when promoting Life, Death and Safeways in 2014. I could never find any quotes from James Murphy on the session which is a shame as I wonder what his thoughts were on the collaboration.

lipglossed wrote:

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Via Giles Acrylic, himself via LipglossJill - is the announcement a new Pulp tea?

twitter.com/DragonflyTea/status/1660668848117366785

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 Oh hell yeah.

did you have time to write any of them down? Weve always had to take what we can

superchob wrote:

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did you have time to write any of them down? Weve always had to take what we can

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unfortunately no. The track titles were all very clear, sometimes there was like 5 versions of the same songs. Only a few a few bits of each were heard. I hate when it happens coz you wake up and of course you dont remember the melody. So frustrating. 

 

lipglossed wrote:

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"My even bigger erection"

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Is it five days already ? Those Nick days are long

So it is five days sunday to thursday so big new today or from monday to friday ?

So confusing.

Seems about right...

twitter.com/therealnickbank/status/1661844689945866245

Tomorrow 10am.

Maybe it'll be Europe? Primavera, Sziget, La Route, maybe?

Ian wrote:

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Yes, my money is on non-UK

Spoiler

pension boosting

tour dates.

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 That made me laugh... 

My wallet cannot take the drip drip tease of more gigs like last time Im seeing them three times this summer already!

Bastards, I'd have had a bit of that Manchester gig but I fly to Portugal the day before!

There's always the tea...

dragonflytea.com/products/pulp-monday-morning-tea

...and Tatty Devine...

https://twitter.com/tattydevine/status/1661782932690808854?s=46&t=vAzuTLgZRVw5Cgid1hU3CQ

Eamonn wrote:

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andy wrote:

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Ridiculous. Pulp never fails to disappoint 

 

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 Can't believe they haven't announced a Paris show, at least.

London again...boring... (and I live here and love the Apollo but so many fans in other cities and countries are crying out to see them). 

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Well they wont play paris in the summer, its risky. with the millions of festivals. Probably a Europe Tour in the fall.

Or something like Rock en seine.

-- Edited by andy on Friday 26th of May 2023 10:33:47 AM

Well I can't complain, Manchester and I'm off work that week

Its good that they are doing indoor gigs but lets be honest we saw that coming. Its the classic tour schedule. Announce low key gigs for warm up, then festivals first then own dates.

The fact its been teased a "big announcement" is the letdown. We expected some king of material.

I suppose now the next window for something other than live stuff will be Christmas... oh well.

-- Edited by andy on Friday 26th of May 2023 11:56:53 AM

I can't get past the tongue motif. I don't get it. Keep thinking it's The Rolling Stones.

The Dishes tea-towel raised a smile. Most of the prices raised an eyebrow.

I love the Heresy white tee with black scrawled pulp, and the mirror.

I think I'll be ordering those .

Eamonn wrote:

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I can't get past the tongue motif. I don't get it. Keep thinking it's The Rolling Stones.

The Dishes tea-towel raised a smile. Most of the prices raised an eyebrow.

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 Wait, there's a Dishes teatowel? 

God, that's brilliant, fair play.

Nice that WLL gets some recognition with there being a Sunrise sticker.

Yeah, there's a huge amount of merch! I wonder if that has any implications for more tour dates internationally?

On the one hand - more places to sell merch at. On the other, fans who can't attend shows can buy it online. I'm in two minds here.

They should have Underwear-themed underwear.

I remember seeing Pulp knickers in years gone by with Are You Sure? printed on them. Different class

Bad Cover Version cornflakes

This is bound to be Pulp. Or failing that, Blur.

A mysterious addition to the Pyramid lineup goes by the artist name the ChurnUps, who have no online footprint and are presumably a starry secret act. Glastonbury organisers were tight-lipped about their identity, but whoever they are, they have a very high profile placing, sandwiched between Royal Blood and Texas in the much-coveted sunset slot on Friday evening.

Foo Fighters are boring, hope it ain't them.

Yeah, not surprising given the Sheff Arena ones.