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Greetings, indie legends.

I'm working in London for the week and haven't been here in ten years or so. Wondering if anyone has any Pulp-ish recommendations? Not like the fascade of Hammersmith studio, but maybe some bars y'all like. Areas to walk. Cafes. I'm working in Soho. 



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Bar Italia in Soho is always worth a visit. Also the cafe from the Common People single is just down from Olympia overground. Mrs Mons saw Jarv on a tube once so you could try there too.



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Bar Italia is key, going there for sure. Thanks! 



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Frisko2000 - iirc you are from Canada right?

If you are looking for places to have a pint and a dance, your last outpost for anything 'indie' in Central London is the basement in The Pheonix in Cavendish Square (just north of Oxford Street). Expect a greying crowd.

Camden is a sad, rotting corpse of its former glories.

The centre of gravity for all things hip has long since shifted to East London- Shoreditch area around Rough Trade East. Go have a wander and see what you can find. You might spot a d-list celebrity from Game of Thrones browsing the vintage shops or something.

The adventurous tourist will also find some fun stuff going on in Southeast London suburbs. If you fancy a trek- the Rivoli Ballroom in Honour Oak is perhaps the closest you will get to a classic English Knees-Up. There's a Northern Soul night on tonight, in fact. There's also a 90s night on Saturday, but expect more House and Hip Hop, with maybe Disco 2000 and Girls & Boys thrown in at the end of the night. (Indie music is not terribly fashionable in youthful London, so you have to go where the old folks are.)

I can't really make any specific recommendations for "Pulp-y" places. Mile End is now peripheral to Shoreditch so has become quite trendy, though still not much to see there, aside from a photo next to the tube signage. Whilst in the area you could wander the Thames path in the Isle of Dogs, might even spot a rare and elusive Pearly King.

Wouldn't be caught dead in Ladbroke Grove.

Maybe just take in some Museums? They are free afterall.



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The ICA where Mark used to run Little Stabs at Happiness always has some art exhibitions or film programmes running. Foyles bookshop in Charing Cross road now occupied the former Central St Martin's building. If you want to go further afield you could take a trip down to Burdett Road in Mile End. I think The Good Mixer in Inverness Street, Camden is still around.

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OlympusMons wrote:

Bar Italia in Soho is always worth a visit. Also the cafe from the Common People single is just down from Olympia overground. Mrs Mons saw Jarv on a tube once so you could try there too.



-- Edited by OlympusMons on Friday 11th of November 2022 08:57:30 AM


 Yeah, try "the tube". You're bound to see Jarvis!



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Toronto, Canada, yep. 

Thanks for the write-up, FF!  The Phoenix shall happen tonight after work. If the strike is over, I'll take the tube and meet up with Jarv:)

I'll schedule a day/night to poke around Shoreditch. I actually lived in Whitechapel (I think that's in the vicinity) for the better part of a year ages ago . It was when the followup to Is This It? was just coming out and the anticipation was radiant, ha. I heard 12:51 and that S Club 7 lady's solo single every hour...

 

 

 

 



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God, early 00's was such a shit time to come of age, wasn't it?

Lending mates at school We Love Life when all they wanted to listen to was Limp Bizkit and nu-metal bollocks. Laughable to think how unfashionable Pulp were.



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59 Lyndhurst Grove?



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Eamonn wrote:

God, early 00's was such a shit time to come of age, wasn't it?

Lending mates at school We Love Life when all they wanted to listen to was Limp Bizkit and nu-metal bollocks. Laughable to think how unfashionable Pulp were.


 Not as bad as early 1980s, with Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran et al.  As if punk rock never happened.



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Simply Fuss Free wrote:

Expect a greying crowd.

Camden is a sad, rotting corpse of its former glories.

The centre of gravity for all things hip has long since shifted to East London- Shoreditch area around Rough Trade East. 

I have gone beyond greying!

I still mostly go out in North London (Hackney, Dalston, Highbury, Islington, Camden & Kentish Town).  Last time I was in Hawley Arms it was horrible, so I tend to just go to gigs at Roundhouse & Electric Ballroom and get out asap afterwards.

Not sure there is too much in the east; my children dont worry about Shoreditch anymore and seem to be south of the river a fair amount.  I did go south of the river myself on Tuesday to deepest Tooting, and have subsequently spent the last couple of days recuperating in Upper Street, Islington smile  



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Wouldn't be caught dead in Ladbroke Grove.


Off to Subterania next month for a gig.  Not somewhere I go to too often nowadays, though given my wifes parents live there, we do have to visit every now and then. smile   



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I thought they were Tipperary or was that "My First Wife"? smile

 

Blimey, you don't have share your life on here, ArrGee biggrin



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ArrGee wrote:
Eamonn wrote:

God, early 00's was such a shit time to come of age, wasn't it?

Lending mates at school We Love Life when all they wanted to listen to was Limp Bizkit and nu-metal bollocks. Laughable to think how unfashionable Pulp were.


 Not as bad as early 1980s, with Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran et al.  As if punk rock never happened.


 

No way! You had Human League, Soft Cell, Dexys, Elvis Costello, Kate Bush, Talk Talk, Talking Heads etc. etc. all in their prime (well, apart from Hollis who just got better).



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Eamonn wrote:
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Eamonn wrote:

God, early 00's was such a shit time to come of age, wasn't it?

Lending mates at school We Love Life when all they wanted to listen to was Limp Bizkit and nu-metal bollocks. Laughable to think how unfashionable Pulp were.


 Not as bad as early 1980s, with Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran et al.  As if punk rock never happened.


 No way! You had Human League, Soft Cell, Dexys, Elvis Costello, Kate Bush, Talk Talk, Talking Heads etc. etc. all in their prime (well, apart from Hollis who just got better).


Some of them pre-date the early 1980s.  Certainly Elvis Costello, though Get Happy!!! was a very good LP.  Admittedly, The Teardrop Explodes did arrive in 1980 and resulted in a couple of superb albums in their own right along with Julian Copes two outstanding solo albums in 1984.   I have been listening to Pulps It & Freaks a lot in recent days (mainly as they are one of the few LPs on Alexa that I can listen to on the Amazon device thanks to Mrs. ArrGee buying them for me on her account) and they are not dissimilar to what Julian Cope was producing at the time.  I guess not too surprising given the influences both share. 

"Dont let anybody tell you that the 80s were good; the 80s were horrible.

I studied film at Saint Martins art college. The horrible 80s were coming to an end, and things started to get a little bit interesting" - Jarvis Cocker

https://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/10048-jarvis-cocker-on-the-music-of-his-life/

I tend to agree smile

 



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Eamonn wrote:

I thought they were Tipperary or was that "My First Wife"? smile

Blimey, you don't have share your life on here, ArrGee biggrin

 

Her family are from Tipp, but they live in London.  Just the one wife, cant afford another!

Ah who cares, I use a pseudonym.  No one has much idea who I really am smile   You thought I was hanging out with a young Russian at Earth biggrin



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Wouldn't be caught dead in Ladbroke Grove.


-- Edited by Simply Fuss Free on Friday 11th of November 2022 09:56:12 AM


 

 I nearly died in Ladbroke Grove earlier this year.

I was at Notting Hill Carnival and got caught in the crowd. Towards the front of the parade there was a bottleneck which stalled progress and people started pushing back. I thought "If I go down, I'm done for". At one point I was stuck for 20 minutes with my back against a boarded up residence, whilst people kept surging past me. At one point some I ducked into a side street to try and get out but the exit was fenced off. I had to go back to the main road, when a bunch of idiots came haring  through in the opposite direction, bowling everyone over in their path. If I hadnt have been standing next to the table of a nearby food stall I would have been sent flying. Obviously I managed to get out and I had to endure a long trek to White City to get the tube. You should have seen the bruises I had the next morning.



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Oh if you are anywhere near The Feathers in Westminster, drop in and say hello. I recommend the Shepherd's Pie

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I loved duran Duran when I was a kid. Sadly the only time I got to meet them was years later when I worked at Radio Times and they did a shoot with us ... here's me in the pudsey outfit.



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oh and Sarah I now work not far away, I might pop in soon!



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