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Eamonn


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No general release date or full details yet given but HMV will have advance copies of all four titles (no Intro sadly) for their "vinyl week" timed no doubt to chime with Daddy's Day. http://www.hmv.com/music/hmv-vinyl-week-full-line-up-of-exclusive-titles-revealed

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I don't suppose it will be Different Class with the interchangeable covers, will it?  Must admit I like the idea of getting We Love Live on vinyl finally even if Intro which would be the one I really want.  I did get the Music on Vinyl His n Hers double LP for a fiver a few weeks ago.  I thought it was too good to be true, but despite some minor damage to the cover (which was in the description) and some surface marking on the vinyl, it played near perfectly.

Also I just discovered The Damned are finally releasing The Black Album on vinyl.   So with two live Bowie albums coming later this month, it looks like my credit card will be getting a bit of a hammering.



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Ah man! Shame that I live all the way across the pond as I would love to get my hands on a copy of This is Hardcore and We Love Life! Guess I'll have to wait a bit until they are available everywhere else. Still, it's great that they are FINALLY repressing those two. Here's hoping the general release date is not too far off!

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How many shifted copies of WLL would it take to have Island insist on a deluxe edition? Unless these are all deluxe versions...

 

 

(...no, I don't really believe that, but it was nice to pretend I did. It's all we have these days...)



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superchob wrote:

How many shifted copies of WLL would it take to have Island insist on a deluxe edition? 

I doubt they will ever re-release the Pulp CDs.  Maybe as downloads, but given they are all freely available (well nearly free on amazon, 1p + £1.26 postage) it just wouldn't be worthwhile.

Vinyl deluxes; original albums as was, so Babies off His n Hers and a second album for each would be nice.  Might try and pop into HMV at weekend and take a look but suspect they won't stock them in Stratford.



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except the Fire records. they will be re-issued every 5 years for eternity

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robbroncs wrote:

except the Fire records. they will be re-issued every 5 years for eternity

Given the Fire recordings been sliced and diced in so many ways, I can't see what else they can do.

Doubt even Fire will release any more CDs.  Vinyl or download seems to be all most record companies worry about these days.  Profits from CDs are too low.

All that said, some of the Fire vinyl re-releases have been pretty good, not sure I would spend £15+p&p on it, bur this does look very nice.

http://www.firerecords.com/wp/product/pulp-little-girl-with-blue-eyes-2015-coloured-vinyl/

 



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I wonder which masters they will use for these?

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Just seen all these in HMV. His N Hers is the original Babies-less version! Picked up We Love Life for under £20. Pretty chuffed as I sold my original for £80 some time ago and regretted it!

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All available online, though I suspect track listing is errant.

http://store.hmv.com/search-results?searchtext=pulp&searchmode=allwords

 



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At 3.40 you can see them.  Different Class doesn't look like interchangeable cover. 



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Oh nice! Does anyone know if the This is Hardcore repress has a gatefold sleeve like the original? They list it as one LP, so I'm assuming no.

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the-gothic-stringbean wrote:

Oh nice! Does anyone know if the This is Hardcore repress has a gatefold sleeve like the original? They list it as one LP, so I'm assuming no.

 Yes it does.

Bought all four today in Cheltenham - haven't got any of the originals on vinyl.



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Also, don't know if this is the same on the original but TIH has Tomorrow Never Lies and Laughing Boy after The Day After the Revolution (but includes that ridiculously annoying 12 minute long or taped down key.



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Any word on audio quality? Better than the Plain Recordings/Music on Vinyl reissues, I hope?

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Got This Is Hardcore from Fopp in London today. There were a handful of each album left. TIH is gatefold, double vinyl so for £19, the same price as the others, it represented the best value and I couldn't really afford all four (have an original vinyl copy of We Love Life and I think I'd prefer to get the deluxe vinyl edition of HisnHers - the non-Universal one from a couple of years ago).

I think all the albums are faithful to the originals in terms of presentation. It would have been nice if they had done a box-set for this with new liner notes or a remaster and as it's Universal putting them out, I'm surprised in a way that they haven't repackaged them in an enticing bundle and made more of a thing out of it.

Hopefully if sales are good they will consider future reissues (Intro/Hits/Peel(?) on vinyl or even better some sort of release (non-vinyl most likely) with all the remaining unreleased demos from 92-00.

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Just bought all 4 - tracklistings are as per original releases, no babies on HNH

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seductivebarry wrote:

Also, don't know if this is the same on the original but TIH has Tomorrow Never Lies and Laughing Boy after The Day After the Revolution (but includes that ridiculously annoying 12 minute long or taped down key.

Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

Just bought all 4 - tracklistings are as per original releases, no babies on HNH

What was the original vinyl track listing of This Is Hardcore?  

The Plain version has four bonus tracks, so does this one differ?

http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/ThisIsHardcoreAlbum

Tracklisting

  1. The Fear (5:39)
  2. Dishes (3:30)
  3. Party Hard (4:00)
  4. Help the Aged (4:28)
  5. This Is Hardcore (6:25)
  6. TV Movie (3:24)
  7. A Little Soul (3:20)
  8. I'm a Man (4:59)
  9. Seductive Barry (8:31)
  10. Sylvia (5:44)
  11. Glory Days (4:55)
  12. The Day After the Revolution (??:??)
  1. Tomorrow Never Lies (4:47)
  2. Laughing Boy (3:48)
  3. The Professional (5:09)
  4. This Is Hardcore (End of the Line Remix) (2:59) 
    Total length (LP): 86:39


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Eamonn wrote:

Hopefully if sales are good they will consider future reissues (Intro/Hits/Peel(?) on vinyl or even better some sort of release (non-vinyl most likely) with all the remaining unreleased demos from 92-00.

Intro would be good as it is a perfect LP running at 40 minutes, but I'm not so sure about Hits nor Peel Sessions.  In my opinion, Hardcore is a better CD album as the breaks on LP are not conducive to listening to it whilst We Love Life, Different Class and His n Hers are on the limit of what can be squeezed onto an LP.  (Not stopped me getting them though)

Hits shouldn't be on vinyl for the simple reason that it isn't a proper album and would have to be a double LP with the second LP likely to be unwanted.

The Peel Sessions given it is the sessions along with three live shows of varying length would not be particularly coherent on LP.  Its length would mean at least 3 LPs and possibly 4.

If there has to be a vinyl LP, Pulp should release a ChangesOneBowie/Marley Legend/Jam Snap like hits collection with all killer and no filler.  10-12 tracks (ideally single mixes, possibly the odd LP track)

so that would make it something like ...

  1. Razzmatazz
  2. Babies
  3. Lip Gloss
  4. Do You Remember The First Time?
  5. Common People
  6. Sorted for Es and Wizz
  7. Disco 2000
  8. The Fear  (or alternative album track)
  9. This Is Hardcore
  10. Sunrise

(Sadly omitting My Legendary Girlfriend as it is not an Island recording)

 



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Aye, just checked the HMV website and they don't ship to the US and, of course, the records are already selling for twice the price on Discogs and eBay. Guess I'll have to wait for the general release, which hopefully there will be one.

And to keep the conversation going, in the terms of reissues I really think they should have a Deluxe Edition reissue of We Love Life before anything else gets a reissue.

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the-gothic-stringbean wrote:

.... they should have a Deluxe Edition reissue of We Love Life before anything else gets a reissue.

I suspect that that ship has sailed.   It's ten years since the deluxe releases and record companies don't have much appetite for releasing CDs.  All the deluxe editions (along with those from numerous other acts) ended up in the bargain racks at FOPP, and they were the three popular albums.    More likely there will be a big Pulp retrospective like the suede and blur boxes.  Who knows, these LPs may be the advance party for that type of thing. 



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We did our best re We Love Life deluxe (a petition through the Wiki, a ''call to action day'' by the departed poster fredthered etc.), and I think even Pulp expressed an interest in such a project to Universal around the time of the reunion but the label didn't bite.
In a way, it's a shame that the three earlier albums were reissued so soon after We Love Life i.e less than five years. If it had been a further five years down the line, as in 2011 instead of 2006 or ten (i.e. now - jesus, what a scary thought, the deluxe editions are a decade old) I think We Love Life would have been shoe-horned in with the other three despite it not selling many originally. A stand-alone release for it was always a tall order.

Having said that, I'm not too sure about record companies not having appetite for releasing CDs anymore. Obviously it depends on the label and artist, but if you follow the superdeluxeedition website (come on, doesn't everyone??!), you'll notice that a lot of lesser-known acts re-release albums that sold even a fraction of We Love Life. Unfortunately Pulp don't seem likely to be in a position where the rights of their recordings reverts to them meaning they're in the shitty position (for us) of being a one-time big act on a huge label who have their pick of artists in a vast catalogue to reissue/repackage.

Re further vinyls, it was just a nice thought that maybe CD1 of the Peel Sessions would get a release. A bit harsh to assume that a second vinyl of Hits containing Hardcore and WLL material would render the chances of an LP release redundant but maybe so... That compilation did eventually go platinum (through heavily-discounted HMV offers no doubt but nevertheless...) I guess there's limited use for it now that the four studio albums have all been reissued.

I hope you're right about these vinyls testing the market for a bigger retrospective release. It's all the unreleased demos that are the holy grail for us - I did a mock-up of such a possible release last year on here called ''Lipgloss Cigarettes Chocolate Boxes And Roses'' but it would be too niche a product for a major label (maybe even an independent label) to put out. If it was made more appealing to a wider audience by including full sets of key live performances from Pulp's career (i.e the three Glasto appearances, the last gig at Sheff arena and/or anything else recorded to a high standard such as a radio/tv broadcast) it could possibly work. After You caused a buzz when it came out, you imagine there would be some appetite from a larger audience than us lot for old Pulp made new.

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Eamonn wrote:

Having said that, I'm not too sure about record companies not having appetite for releasing CDs anymore. Obviously it depends on the label and artist, but if you follow the superdeluxeedition website (come on, doesn't everyone??!)

I didn't know a superdeluxeedition site even existed, so I don't.  Do you have a link?

I have a few of these mainly due to FOPP selling them off cheap, but they are more for the completist.  I have to confess that when they were released that I just downloaded the Pulp tracks I didn't have initially before eventually buying them on the cheap.  

Record companies aren't so keen on releasing CDs because the profits are low and there are so few high street retailers selling them.  Vinyl and downloads have a better profit margin.  I have veered away from the second hand vinyl LP world in recent times and the insane prices back to CDs which cost £1 or less.  Cheaper to buy them rip them and chuck them in the garbage (not that I ever do that). 



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Eamonn wrote:

I hope you're right about these vinyls testing the market for a bigger retrospective release. It's all the unreleased demos that are the holy grail for us - I did a mock-up of such a possible release last year on here called ''Lipgloss Cigarettes Chocolate Boxes And Roses'' but it would be too niche a product for a major label (maybe even an independent label) to put out. If it was made more appealing to a wider audience by including full sets of key live performances from Pulp's career (i.e the three Glasto appearances, the last gig at Sheff arena and/or anything else recorded to a high standard such as a radio/tv broadcast) it could possibly work. After You caused a buzz when it came out, you imagine there would be some appetite from a larger audience than us lot for old Pulp made new.

I like the fact that Pulp haven't been subject to countless reissues and re-releases.  The suede boxes (LPs and singles) were good in some ways, but given one of the albums was never an LP (A New Morning could have been left out) and many of the singles were never released on vinyl it didn't feel right.  The Bowie Five Years reissue is great if you don't have any Bowie LPs whatsoever, but I just want the Re:Call LP of rarities which is not available under separate cover yet.

Pulp's Gift/Island back catalogue of five LPs and sixteen or so singles is about right for a boxset or two. 



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I see it is the bleeding obvious http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/



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