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TOPIC: Pulp career retrospective box set?
What would interest you most in a Pulp career box set? [35 vote(s)]

Remastered albums
5.7%
Unreleased demos
74.3%
Live concert footage / audio
17.1%
A book telling the band's story
0.0%
Unseen footage of the band
2.9%
Signed material
0.0%
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Just bumping this thread up to see if there has been any movement on this boxset? I realise it's early days though. The possible tracklist of rare unreleased stuff that Ian compiled above looks amazing, and would be an immediate purchase for me!

I agree that to get more sales (and be a proper retrospective) the box would have to include re-releases of everything we already have too. In terms of live content, I'd give up those discs if it meant getting more of the rare stuff. Of course, we'd have to have live tracks for those songs that didn't ever get demo or professional recordings, but for all the rest, maybe there could be a separate live boxset? I like the idea about a Glastonbury boxset too.

Sturdy / Scottbloodyfrazer / others with encyclopedic knowledge - Are you all in touch with Scott Robinson about this away from this board? You guys really need to be involved in the project to help with negotiations and to get everything included that the die-hard fans want!



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I'm not - he knows where I am if this gets off the ground though

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Just spoke to the lad on facebook - he has tried to reach to Jarvis on Instagram but no luck so he is putting a plan together to labels and management to see if there is any interest . Not much going on here then at the mo. He said he would keep me updated.

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Just bumping this thread up again to see if there's any more news about this project getting off the ground?

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Dead in the water me thinks....

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The only thing I'll be happy with is a WLL Deluxe. I'm waiting since 2006. Not so hard to make, but they won't... 



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I'd be even happier with a Pulpintro Deluxe, but that's even unlikelier



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ooooooo. intro deluxe sounds tasty!

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Yes but can you devise a 2CD tracklist for it without using live gigs ?

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When you see that every little album gets a deluxe edition, heck some are on their third or more iteration, to not have a lovely two disc WLL is a real shame. I'd go for a deluxe Intro as well. In fact, it's been a long time since I've heard it so I'm gonna give it a spin.

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Eamonn wrote:

Yes but can you devise a 2CD tracklist for it without using live gigs ?

 I'd include all the radio sessions that are contemporary with the material. Hit The North (both if possible), Mark Goodier etc. If you wanted a live set the Sheffield Sound City is perfect. Plus who knows what tapes of demos Jarvis has from the period?



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Hmmm!

OU radio edit
Sheffield Sex City instrumental
Razzmatazz early mix

OU original mix
Live On demo
Babies demo

Styloroc instrumental
Happy Endings demo
Razzmatazz demo
Glass demo
(Would also include Watching Nicky and The Boss here but that's maybe cheating if they're already on the deluxe His n Hers)

Hit the North session '91 and 93 (5 songs each)
Goodier session '92 (4 songs)

There also may or may not be an early She's a Lady from the Babies sessions...


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pretty much what Sturdy said, although the first two tracks would take up unnecessary (for me) space. Instead Le Roi de Fourmis and the Lipgloss demo from that session would be welcome too



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Yep, would be magic to hear the hit the North '91 session in decent quality but wouldn't Lipgloss really be considered as His 'n' hers territory?

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Yes, recording sessions from May'93 onwards definitely belong in the HnH pile.

I'd also leave in the interview bits with Marc Riley on the Hit The North '93 session. It's so entertaining and bears repeated listening.

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Oh, and there's The Night from the Black Session of course. Maybe a few other tracks from that too, although I guess you wouldn't want to go down the route of too much duplication of the same songs.

Wonder if there's any other really well-recorded 1992 show in the vault? Loads of audience bootlegs obviously.

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The full Black Session officially released would be possibly the best slice of Pulp at their live peak in 92. The rendition of Separations for example is stupendous.

Think our Jason is responsible for a lot of the live boots from that era. Can't remember which had the most interesting setlist.

I also wonder when/how often the band made recordings of live shows for their own reference. The 1999 Venice Biennale one is the first that springs to mind. WLL could easily be a five disc box affair with that, all the demos and Auto, plus the full Brum Halloween 2001 BBC Radio 1 live show.

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Ah yes, the black session '92, proper ace..their version of 'the Night' is magic, i think we can all agree that our Jarv sounds a bit strained and out of his depth with the vocal, but crikey, Valli is somewhat falsetto and probably foolish to attempt, but i maintain the Pulpy rendition has an accomplished soundtrack and favourable against Le quatre seasons..
Separations remains my fave Pulp song of all time, that's been an unwavering love now for over 30 years!!!


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I was just looking through the gigs i recorded '91-'92 and i suppose the most interesting set list would be the Christmas Leadmill '91 show?
With the inclusion of an early 'O.U' and a rare outing for 'She's dead'..

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

Dead in the water me thinks....

Is that a presumption or based on something concrete? I realise Covid went and messed up a load of things since the idea was first mooted on here, but the only thing stopping a decent retrospective project getting off the ground would be if the band or record labels reject the idea. ... Ok, I realise those are massive things standing in the way of it getting off the ground, but I suppose I still live in hope. It would be great to have all the unreleased tracks (from live sets or studio sessions) from prior to His n Hers, plus those from the We Love Life era, and I know that the only way it'll get done without glaring omissions is if the fans with encyclopaedic knowledge are involved from the start.



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Presumption based on not replying to my messages etc

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This is about as likely to happen as aliens saying hello Earthlings and declaring that we're not such a bunch of cunts after all..


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I think that the key to getting this off the ground is somehow catching the attention of the band. I remember Paul Draper saying that he was pleasantly surprised by the demand for the unfinished album and despite not being as big as Pulp, nor having an album out in a similar timeframe and not doing a reunion tour, they released a great box-set. Again, Paul knew that there was demand for it.

I understand that Jarvis seems to view Pulp as a thing of the past but I'm sure he wouldn't turn down the extra money (and potentially raising the profile of whatever solo material he is doing at the time) if he knew there was demand. Pulp conventions probably wouldn't be as successful as the Mansun ones but I think if, as fans, we made enough noise, someone would hear us. And even then, they may tell us it's never going to happen. At least that would provide closure.

This forum presumably only represents a small number of fans who would buy a box-set. There are quite a few Facebook groups for Jarvis/Pulp and Nick Banks is on Twitter so should we come up with a plan to start making some noise on social media?

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Still definitely interested in WLL Deluxe.

The Blur box set from a few years back was mind blowing, and another example of how good these things can be. Yes we already had deluxe editions of the 3 big records a few years ago, but to kinda do something similar to that with an extra disc per record full of b-sides and demos would be so good.

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Bumping this one again in the wake of Steve's comment yesterday that Pulp's "entire" 1992-2002 output with Island has been remastered by him and Jarvis. He said that it happened "just over two years ago" but those pictures of them at Abbey Road and indeed the HnH vinyl reissue (the only commercial output from this project to date) came out before then (2019 I think?), so I wonder did they do it over a longer period rather than it being a lockdown endeavour.

Anyway, studio time at Abbey Road doesn't come cheap, so you'd imagine Universal have plans to do something with the remastering sooner rather than later. Selling "product" labelled as a 2019/2020 master will obviously itself look dated the more the years pass.

You could also interpret the comment as both Steve saying "Look, Pulp still mean a lot to me even though I'm not taking part in the shows next year" as well as "Expect new/old Pulp releases in the future".

 

Either way, thanks for throwing us a bone, Steve! He'll be missed next year.

And fair play to him for not being tempted by the touring £££s (well over £100k you'd assume) if his heart isn't in it.



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