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You will get your own bespoke WLL sooper-dooper deluxe although they will omit the 'Pulp' car-sticker in WLL font.

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I love this music so much, and it was such a thrill discovering it (well, being gifted it by fantastic users here) towards the end of the Great Hiatus when any hope of hearing any Pulp was remote. I'd like to hear polished versions. Not sure I've ever heard Fire Island... was it part of the Glasgow or Vienna concerts? The odds are surely only receding though...

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Superchob..
They played 2 shows under the name "A touch of glass",
The sets were made up of mostly instrumental tracks.
Except for my body may die.
Fire island was one of the tracks, a stylophone filled bit of magic, it's never seen the light of day in any other form other than a live recording from Scott Walkers' meltdown festival.

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The stylophone - with all the instruments that have been used by pulp over the years, this is the one that I absolutely love hearing. I think this is why His n Hers is my favoured album - the use of it live between 1991/1994 was arguably the best sounds they had made. ESPECIALLY when you watch No Stilettos and hear the raw power of it during Pink Glove and Shes a Lady. Simply pure magic if you ask me.

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Just wondering how it is that The Quiet Revolution, Cuckoo Song and Got To Have Love came to be leaked? I can't find anything about how that happened. They're not from the (brief) Trixie haul of My Mistake and After You...

Also, Jason, worth noting there's a remake of Sunrise available. Or sort of available. Scott Frazer made it available about ten years ago.

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Stephen wrote:

Just wondering how it is that The Quiet Revolution, Cuckoo Song and Got To Have Love came to be leaked? I can't find anything about how that happened. They're not from the (brief) Trixie haul of My Mistake and After You...

Also, Jason, worth noting there's a remake of Sunrise available. Or sort of available. Scott Frazer made it available about ten years ago.


 It was an average, unspectacular user on here years ago who one day asked if anyone else wanted the WLL demos he had got in, I think, an old trade. The date on my mp3 tags says 2011 if that's any help. How they ever got out or who first shared them I have no idea. I haven't come across them outside of this board. It's a real shame that they're pretty poor quality mp3's but I'd still rather have them as mp3 than not at all.



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Thanks, Saw. Appreciated!

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Stephen wrote:

Just wondering how it is that The Quiet Revolution, Cuckoo Song and Got To Have Love came to be leaked? I can't find anything about how that happened. They're not from the (brief) Trixie haul of My Mistake and After You...

Also, Jason, worth noting there's a remake of Sunrise available. Or sort of available. Scott Frazer made it available about ten years ago.


 It was an average, unspectacular user on here years ago who one day asked if anyone else wanted the WLL demos he had got in, I think, an old trade. The date on my mp3 tags says 2011 if that's any help. How they ever got out or who first shared them I have no idea. I haven't come across them outside of this board. It's a real shame that they're pretty poor quality mp3's but I'd still rather have them as mp3 than not at all.


I quite like the space they leave for the imagination to fill-in the gaps. You kind of get a sense of loss/nostalgia for a time that never actually existed. I mean, finished versions can never be promising, can they? And promise is short if you're mourning a band who've packed it all in...



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Sorry to bump an old thread but I had to log on just to say Grandfather's Nursery is absolutely brilliant. How have I never heard it before today??? I also never heard My Mistake. Brilliant too. I can't figure out how I missed these two. I've been playing them over and over on YouTube. I think part of what I love is you can hear Jarvis' vocals so clearly. Wish they'd done a WLL deluxe. This band has a habit of making some of their best stuff demos or b sides ;)

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What about Cuckoo and The Quiet Revolution, Jean?

(Jarvis also did a solo Lockdown version of Cuckoo that you can find on here/Spotify)

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Thanks, Eamonn. I have definitely got TQR and am not crazy about that one. Maybe I just need to give it more time. I know i have GTHL as well. I've just been listening to Cuckoo (which I thought I had) on YouTube and it's brilliant. I have 2 CDs of stuff I got from here and I must check later if these are on it. I'm getting worried about my memory now! Is it a case that I have these 3 songs and didn't like them at the time! They're 3 brilliant songs.

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What's the story with the 'accounts', folks? It keeps wanting to send a verification code to someone. If they're not functional anymore that's fine, was just going to have a look. Can't figure out how I don't have these songs. I can listen on YouTube anyway but I always feel safer with a CD. Got one of those bluetooth speakers at long last and the songs sound great through it. I have TQR but not the other 3 and they're absolutely brilliant songs. I have to say, Eamonn, I prefer the original Cuckoo rather than the lockdown version. I looked that up as well.

Any chance this tour might give them renewed enthusiasm to revisit any of these songs like they did with After You? Here's hoping.

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Pretty simple, with WLL they release the "wrong" album. They had all these amazing songs on demos and ended up doing another kind of album. Oh well, its Pulp...

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WLL is a fine album. I like My Grandfather's Nursery, but not very fond of The Quiet Revolution.

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I remember The Quiet Revolution taking a long time to click with me but I ended-up loving it. Great lyrics and that kind-of rustic vibe they were experimenting with (acoustic guitars, flutes (?)) but still with organs and a strong vocal melody.

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Yeah, I gather that a lot of people like TQR and GTHL and it might just take a bit of repeated listening for them to grow on me. At the moment, I prefer Cuckoo, Grandfather's Nursey and My Mistake. I could imagine GTHL being a radio hit back then. It sounds very of that time. I love WLL as is but in an ideal world I'd swap some of those songs. I remember a friend saying to me before when I made them a CD full of b-sides and demos that some of the songs were better than the songs on the albums and it's true. You're onto a good band when even their castaways are brilliant!

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My main problem with We Love Life is that its supposed to be a pastoral record, yet the sound is very robotic. It doesn't have that breath of fresh air the demos have.

My "perfect" WLL is this:

Got To Have Love
Weeds
The Trees
The Quiet Revolution
Cuckoo Song
After You
Yesterday (this one has grown on me a lot the past few years) 
The Birds in Your Garden
Bad Cover Version
I Love Life
Sunrise



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What about your gandaddys nursery?
Remove I Love Life, I could never get into it. It follows the same quiet/loud style of Sunrise but the quiet part is drab, mediocre lyrics and the loud part is Pulp trying to be a rock band but sounding like a parody.
And I bet Darren, St Jude and Performance Of A Lifetime are all far better. Forever In My Dreams too.


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Eamonn wrote:

What about your gandaddys nursery?
Remove I Love Life, I could never get into it. It follows the same quiet/loud style of Sunrise but the quiet part is drab, mediocre lyrics and the loud part is Pulp trying to be a rock band but sounding like a parody.
And I bet Darren, St Jude and Performance Of A Lifetime are all far better. Forever In My Dreams too.


 

I like gandaddys nursery, but for some reason i never thought it fitted with the other demos or even that era. Maybe because it was available back then already along with the album. I dont know, feels very different. Sounds more like a bridge between TIH and WLL and a bit samey with Like a friend or something. 

I love life could have been better but i'd say the ending which is very messy saves it from being a parody as you say. 

 

On a side note, maybe i should have included Born to Cry too. Great song. Forever in My Dreams somewhere too right... so many great songs left out. 

-- Edited by andy on Thursday 6th of July 2023 10:54:30 AM



-- Edited by andy on Thursday 6th of July 2023 10:55:45 AM



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And I know "My Mistake" is only a simple little song but God, I love it. It could be an interlude at the end of side one or a "hidden track" at the end of an album (remember those? You'd be drifting off to sleep and then suddenly, ten minutes after the last song on the album finishes, suddenly you're woken-up and you can't figure out where the noise is coming from....).

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this is probably a stupid question but which of the WLL era demos are online and accessible on youtube etc as id love to hear some of the gems i havent heard yet. and what about other songs from this period that havent been released? is there a full list somewhere?


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Jean wrote:

What's the story with the 'accounts', folks? It keeps wanting to send a verification code to someone. If they're not functional anymore that's fine, was just going to have a look. 


 They are still there. I have the passwords and the answers to the secret questions, but it wants to send a verification code to ArrGee.



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Sorry to be the umpteenth person to ask this question, but does anyone have a link to the original demo of After You?

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It was originally shared via this forum, though I expect the link is long-gone. Here's everything I managed to collate at the time. Track titles might be wrong, I've just tried to match up the songs with the known recording sessions, but it's just guesswork.



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hawalius1 wrote:

It was originally shared via this forum, though I expect the link is long-gone. Here's everything I managed to collate at the time. Track titles might be wrong, I've just tried to match up the songs with the known recording sessions, but it's just guesswork.


 Ahh, you're incredible! Thank you so much!



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