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Interesting reading the last two posts from people around my age (''a man told me to beware of thirty three''), as we were early-teens when TIH came out and are now roughly the age Jarvis was when he wrote it/the album was released. Clearly, these brave/embarassing, adult-confessional songs, were not really for us from an artistic sense yet clearly were/had to be/should be! from a label/commercial angle ("Do they regularly listen to/buy pop singles? Check. Are they a captive audience of the band already from their last record? Check. Job done!") and yet as wide-eyed fans, we felt compelled to find a way in with them, regardless.

My near lifetime affliction to this group didn't begin until the following year when Pulp's popularity was at a decline for the first time since the 1980's and my introduction to a lot of the TIH material didn't arrive until I watched a tv recording of ''The Park Is Mine'' concert in early 2000. I remember being convinced I'd heard "The Fear" before as it sounded so familiar/immediate. And I almost wore-out the VHS by rewinding back to watch the performance of ''Laughing Boy'' again and again. I also loved ''TV Movie'' almost straight away too - so the more traditionally arranged (turgid to some) songs on the album such as this and A Little Soul have always been as big a part of me for Pulp as the Doyle-Senior propelled, idiosyncratic sonic axis of Gift singles and the Sisters EP that so many fans hold-up as being premium Pulp. It took another year, spring 2001, when I finally purchased This Is Hardcore, to hear the album in full and though I struggled with some tracks such as Seductive Barry and Party Hard (I hated the abrupt, distorted intro of the latter and after revelling in the pretty majesty of 'Dishes' would quickly pause/skip the CD to shield me from the start of the next song) but learned to love it after a while (the cheerleaders in the video may have helped).

The internal meetings at Island during 1997 and '98 as to how on earth they marketed This Is Hardcore to a key demograph mentioned above must have been fascinating. "Why can't we get a group of popstars just to behave and not think for themselves?! Just follow the bleedin' formula and we'll all make a few bob out of it..."

The band were going through their own difficulties within and outside the studio and it's hard to believe that nothing other than strong co-ercion made them do TV promotional duties such as when the comeback began in Nov'97, appearing on Live & Kicking in a room full of pre-teens to chat and play Help The Aged. That side of things - again, a few months later on Top of the Pops, the band miming along to This Is Hardcore; was surely the pinnacle/nadir of all the things to mess with your head that had supposedly peaked post-Brit Awards'96. Rather than chronicling a nervous breakdown and turning it into catharsis by wilfully releasing a much-awaited album discussing such themes, the element of having to ''sell'' the record publicly on such media platforms can only have prolonged the mental heebie-jeebies rolling around inside the heads of the band members. Little wonder, I guess, that Jarvis promptly buggered-off almost as soon as the album came out to make a TV documentary series about Outsider Art.

I guess that's partially what makes him proud of the record (''the best rendition of the sound of failure put to tape" or whatever his quote is in the deluxe edition liner notes), along with the more finessed, musical chops of the group.
I too would have loved to see where a 'FEELING CALLED LOVE'-led Pulp with Russell still at the helm would have taken the group but he didn't appear to have the stomach or creative direction to help bring-about such a change so of the 25-odd songs we eventually got in full from the sessions, I think it more than holds-up even if ideal album tracklist/single choices are frustratingly difficult to resolve personally never mind through debating it with other fans like we've done on here many times before.

''It's A Dirty World'' is still a banger, though - twelve years on from its release, but eight years too late. I'll never understand that omission.



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@Eamonn- Im kind of with you with Party Hard, the live version I always worked better, it grew on me after a while though, and its funny what you say about us being Jarvis age now when he wrote that album, its something that Ive thought about before, watching Jarvis in the DC era performing thinking, fuck- Im older now than what he was then

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I feel it's Pulp's most accomplished record musically & arguably lyrically - I change my mind on this often. It's certainly in my top three Pulp albums, along with Freaks & His'N'Hers. The order of that changes frequently too!
I tend to like my music quite dark, so the fact Pulp could make this record post Russell is very impressive to me.
Unfortunately TIH is where Pulp (or Island? feel free to correct me as I don't know how much control they had...) started making bad descisions. Wrong choice of singles, b-sides & unreleased songs being better than album tracks etc..a tradition Pulp & Jarvis have kept ever since!
But it contains a LOT of my favourite songs, not just my favourite Pulp songs either. Side A is absolute perfection, Side B is rescued by the marvelous Seductive Barry.
TV Movie is a good song, but redundent with Dishes on the same album. Would have made an all-time favourite b-side. I'm A Man, well, the song deserves to be there, but the recording/performance doesn't. Anyone else find the arrangement & production really let the song down?
Sylvia is fantastic - self indulgent Brit-rock pomp in a good way. Glory Days is great, but Cocaine Socialism would've been better. TIH's Sorted.
The Day After The Revolution is a very good song, apart from that stupid bit at the end. I mean, WHY waste that time? I understand that It's A Dirty World is superficially similar to The Fear, but would have been fine as an unlisted bonus track. Or, actually I'm going to contradict myself & say the full version of The Fear would have been a better use of the space, & my listening time.
A Little Soul would've been fine for a Jarvis solo project, but doesn't make sense in the context of Pulp. And a single? Sod off!
This Is Hardcore is a wonderful album, but at the very least I'd say swap in Ladies' Man & The Proffessional for TV Movie & A Little Soul. & get rid of that stupid drawn out ending. Record I'm A Man better, or swap it for We Are The Boyz. Then you've got an all time classic, rather than just a brilliant album.

p.s. the title track is probably my favourite piece of recorded music of all time.

 

edit - jeez, i forgot to mention Laughing Boy - perhaps that should've been on there too! Love that track (:



-- Edited by James on Sunday 6th of May 2018 03:49:39 AM

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