Check the films Facebook page Tricia. They're posting all sorts of details of worldwide showings in response to people asking.

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triciathetree wrote:

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Most important question is: is the DVD playable in multiple regions/are blu rays region coded. I want to preorder it but not if I won't even be able to play it because it's UK region. God bless America etc etc. any other Americans on here asked about this yet? I guess I could find out from the vendor

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Have you ever investigated the possibility of hacking your DVD player? I once wanted a La Femme Nikita box set that was only in region 1, and bit of internet research revealed a hack for the firmware of my model to make it multi-region, just by going through the menus in a non-obvious way. I assumed then that the manufacturers don't want to be making physically different machines for each region, so they just hide this setting away from the users.

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 Its super easy to hack the 'cheaper' dvd players. Ive done it many times in order to play many dvds purchase in the UK.

I think it's almost certain to get a US region release at some point given the relative success of their US tour combined with the fact that it actually premiered in Austin and it seems it will probably be playing at some cities around here. Thinking now they really SHOULD do a premiere in Pittsburgh since I think it's the American city most analogous to Sheffield (industrial, working class, somewhat eccentric pockets of locals, river city, steel city, etc). Sheffield reminded me a lot of Pittsburgh when I was there. Unfortunately I don't think there's a huge demand for it there. But I digress......point is I don't THINK it would come to a need for us Americans to torrent it because I'm remaining hopeful and optimistic that there will be an American DVD release.

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calumlynn wrote:

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triciathetree wrote:

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Most important question is: is the DVD playable in multiple regions/are blu rays region coded. I want to preorder it but not if I won't even be able to play it because it's UK region. God bless America etc etc. any other Americans on here asked about this yet? I guess I could find out from the vendor

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It'd be rubbish if there's no US version released, I'm sure someone on here will upload an HD torrent of it for you though.

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 I really do hope this doesnt happen. Can't we support by making the purchase?

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 My thoughts exactly.

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If they don't bother to release the dvd in other territories then why would it make any difference? They're not planning on making any sales in those areas, therefore they're not losing money if anyone from those territories torrents it. I always think if it's not commercially available then it's fair enough- certainly more practical than hacking a dvd player.

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To torrent it you'd have to do it here wouldn't you if the DVD's only available here. You're trying to make it sound like it's only people in the us that will use it which isn't true.

Florian, Alex and the other people involved in making this film don't deserve ripping off just because the us distributors can't be arsed. That is, unless they can be arsed, which you have no idea about at the minute anyway. The decision isn't down to the filmmakers or Pulp you know. It's not about whether Pistachio can be bothered.

Love Story wasn't available here when I wanted to watch it, but Florian gave us the code to watch it for free, because he's a nice person. I'm sure if anyone wanted to watch it but can't for a genuine reason, he would help you.

 

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Torrenting is just peer to peer sharing. It wouldn't have to be listed on Pirate Bay or something! I think you're somewhat overreacting, especially as I was simply talking about a British person on this forum helping out an American person on this forum, not some kind of free-for-all as soon as we get hold of the dvd. It's perfectly reasonable to share something for free when it's not commercially available in your country. For example, Pulp B sides have been shared on here over the years which have been commercially available in Japan, but not in this country.

Obviously the decision isn't down to Pulp, I never claimed it was?? If the dvd isn't released in the US it's because no distributor picks it up or whatever. Ultimately people from overseas territories can jump through hoops and hack dvd players or order overpriced imports or whatever out of some sense of loyalty if they really want to, but the fact of the matter is that someone is gonna end up torrenting it/putting it on youtube/various other streaming sites etc, all of which are more sensible options if you literally cannot buy the dvd in your country. I'm a huge Alexander Payne fan but I don't feel guilty about torrenting Citizen Ruth, because there was no other way for me to watch it in the UK.

I can absolutely guarantee that no-one involved with this film is going to care how you get hold of the film if it's not commercially available in your country. Hopefully the dvd will become available in most territories eventually- if you've downloaded the film and it then becomes available to buy, just buy the dvd. But don't punish yourself by waiting months for a US release/paying stupid money for an unwatchable import, all in order to get some imagined pat on the back from the band.

Stealing films/songs etc isn't cool, and isn't something I ever do. However, the great thing about the internet is that you can get hold of stuff that you'd otherwise never be able to see/hear. I've downloaded loads of albums which have never been available to purchase in my country, downloaded out of print books and magazines, films which have never been released on DVD, even video games which were US or Japan-only releases. And often that kind of internet interest can actually force companies to release products in otherwise ignored territories.

Anyway, hopefully this is all irrelevant as the dvd may yet get released in the US.

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robbroncs wrote:

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calumlynn wrote:

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Jarvgirl wrote:

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VoxPop wrote:

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calumlynn wrote:

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triciathetree wrote:

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Most important question is: is the DVD playable in multiple regions/are blu rays region coded. I want to preorder it but not if I won't even be able to play it because it's UK region. God bless America etc etc. any other Americans on here asked about this yet? I guess I could find out from the vendor

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It'd be rubbish if there's no US version released, I'm sure someone on here will upload an HD torrent of it for you though.

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 I really do hope this doesnt happen. Can't we support by making the purchase?

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 My thoughts exactly.

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If they don't bother to release the dvd in other territories then why would it make any difference? They're not planning on making any sales in those areas, therefore they're not losing money if anyone from those territories torrents it. I always think if it's not commercially available then it's fair enough- certainly more practical than hacking a dvd player.

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you may already have a hackable player.... if not they are pretty cheap these days

 

http://dvdhelp.com/

 

i have a phillips that has done the trick for decades

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 I still can't believe in 2014 that we still have region locking on stuff anyway, it makes me so angry.

 

Remember, if you have a mac with a disk drive it can change the region settings up to 10 times. Which gives you a chance to rip the dvd to your hard drive. 

calumlynn wrote:

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robbroncs wrote:

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calumlynn wrote:

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Jarvgirl wrote:

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VoxPop wrote:

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calumlynn wrote:

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triciathetree wrote:

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Most important question is: is the DVD playable in multiple regions/are blu rays region coded. I want to preorder it but not if I won't even be able to play it because it's UK region. God bless America etc etc. any other Americans on here asked about this yet? I guess I could find out from the vendor

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It'd be rubbish if there's no US version released, I'm sure someone on here will upload an HD torrent of it for you though.

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 I really do hope this doesnt happen. Can't we support by making the purchase?

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 My thoughts exactly.

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If they don't bother to release the dvd in other territories then why would it make any difference? They're not planning on making any sales in those areas, therefore they're not losing money if anyone from those territories torrents it. I always think if it's not commercially available then it's fair enough- certainly more practical than hacking a dvd player.

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you may already have a hackable player.... if not they are pretty cheap these days

 

http://dvdhelp.com/

 

i have a phillips that has done the trick for decades

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 I still can't believe in 2014 that we still have region locking on stuff anyway, it makes me so angry.

 

Remember, if you have a mac with a disk drive it can change the region settings up to 10 times. Which gives you a chance to rip the dvd to your hard drive. 

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I never understood what anyone stood to gain from regionalising DVDs? Are our European films so ideologically unsound they will corrupt the youth of North America into un-American activities? All it does is stop them selling a few copies of their product they might otherwise have made a bit more money from. I suppose there will be some peculiar reason to do with marketing that is beyond my comprehension.

I only suggested hacking the DVD player because to me, that was a very easy solution to the problem and I have never really understood the concept of torrents very well. On the few occasions I have tried to download them, it has seemed a very opaque process and taken me ages and numerous attempts. I wouldn't have a clue how to rip a DVD or upload it to one for someone else. It wasn't meant as any kind of implied moral judgment on them though. I agree it is totally frustrating when you can't find any way to purchase a product even when you're quite willing to throw money at people for it.

 

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Check the films Facebook page Tricia. They're posting all sorts of details of worldwide showings in response to people asking.

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 Still waiting for the Guangzhou screening.

 

BTW, region-hacking almost any DVD player is very easy.

Not the Q and A?

Jarvgirl wrote:

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Perhaps I did overreact y'know. It's not a moral issue for me, I don't give a shit normally. I just care about about the film, I care about some of the people involved in making the film. It'll be a travesty if the US  (and elsewhere) distributors don't release it.

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Sorry- my reply was probably a bit too argumentative. We all care about the film and want it to do well, I just really sympathise with Pulp fans from outside of Britain who find it difficult to get hold of stuff sometimes- I just believe that they should never have to pay more/have more difficulty in acquiring stuff than UK fans do. The bizarre thing is that despite Pulp's massive mainstream popularity in the UK, a cult British band like Belle & Sebastian (as an arbitrary example as I know a lot about them) are probably more accessible to US audiences than Pulp, maybe cos they are more part of the 'indie' world (whereas Pulp are part of the Pulp world and nothing else).

Ooh Eamonn, you'll get your mastered Sex City! :)

Calum: I completely agree with you re the unfairness of having to pay extra/faff about/not being able to watch the film.